[Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

[Carl, WCØV]

I think what Bob is getting at is the need to very clearly distinquish all 
the trial (Alpha) efforts from fully released versions so that newcomers to 
Flex products don't hit the panic button so quickly when a particular Alpha 
doesn't work for some reason or other. The warnings you get on startup don't 
seem to get the message across. (But I did enjoy Electric Willy!)

If panic button hits were the only issue, the present setup would suffice, 
but the venom that comes across when a particular bug is found and then not 
fixed in some arbitrary time needs to stop. Period. The work is being done 
by unpaid volunteers and the load that they have assumed on all our behalfs 
is immense. They don't deserve the nasty and sarcastic comments seen here on 
too many occasions.

I for one have enjoyed trying out all the stages from back before SVN940 or 
thereabouts. I still keep some of the old ones around for comparison sake. 
But after trying out SVN3171 and hearing the absolutely beautiful CW 
reception with nothing more than default settings, even the changeable skins 
of the Pretty Betty versions aren't enough to make me go back.

If there is a signup list for Alpha testers, please add me to it.

Tnx to all the developers for the fabulous product.

73, de Carl N9GC (ex WCØV)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jesse N4BFD" <n4bfdx at gmail.com>
Cc: <flexradio at flex-radio.biz>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher


>I respectfully disagree ...I don't think there should be any restrictions 
>on
> who gets to test software, if someone is savy enough to figure out how to
> navigate the SVN process, they probably should be able to test the
> software.  The more you restrict that base of people, the less you have, 
> and
> the more time it takes to get bugs found, and fixed, regardless if they 
> were
> found from a exhaustive step by step hunt or just bumbling along.
>
> N4BFD
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Brian Lloyd 
> <brian-wb6rqn at lloyd.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:38 PM, Robert McGwier wrote:
>>
>>  I had to be persuaded but I believe it will benefit all of us.
>>>
>>
>> It is certainly what I would do. Reflectors are cheap and easy to set up.
>> If one doesn't want to spend any effort we could certainly create another 
>> on
>> google-groups or yahoo-groups.
>>
>>  The use of
>>> the test branch by people running contests and hunting vital DX or worse
>>> yet,  doing ARES work just sent shivers down my spine.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, that is pretty silly. OTOH, the only way you can completely stop 
>> that
>> is to carefully control who is in the alpha test group. It should 
>> probably
>> be people who have a methodical approach to using the software and can 
>> track
>> how they get to a particular error. I would like to be in the alpha test
>> group but I must admit that I do not do a very good job of hammering on 
>> the
>> code since almost all my operating is using digital modes. After a year 
>> of
>> having my F5K this past two weeks were the first time I actually tried 
>> out
>> the NF and ANF.
>>
>> Regardless, I tend to do regression testing as a byproduct of my use. I
>> have my own unofficial tests for basic functionality that tend to be very
>> consistent.
>>
>>  It is time for a
>>> fork in the road.  One for those who like to tinker and/or have specific
>>> tasks to accomplish for the overall program and another (this one here)
>>> for
>>> those who like to just use and get help in set up without any barriers 
>>> to
>>> moving back and forth other than the (ENFORCED) etiquette of what may be
>>> discussed and where.
>>>
>>
>> Seems more than reasonable to me.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL
>> Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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