[Flexradio] CW QSK ability
Robert Dennison
ab7cf at juno.com
Thu Apr 24 20:30:44 EDT 2008
Hi guys,
I was born and raised on Telegraph Rd (true,) I never bought a mic for my
SDR, don't know psk from rtty and I have to agree with your comments but
consider...
So okay until you get that first receive buffer filled you aren't going
to hear anything on switch to receive:
512/48,000 = 0.01 seconds -- longest time to processing
1024/192,000 = 0.005 seconds -- shorter time to processing
512/192,000 = 0.0025 seconds -- shortest time to processing (mebbe even
reasonable)
Now consider the T/R switch has to close (mebbe 0.01sec) and processing
has to occur after the receive buffer fills (give processing another 0.01
second, or more) and you have probably 0.0225 - 0.03 seconds minimum till
you hear something in your phones... As computers get faster and multi
threading gets better the processing will get shorter but.. the T/R and
fill times will remain the same.
It's interesting that faster turn around is reported with 512/48,0000.
That may be because the processing of a shorter buffer is faster and
swamps the sample time issues. It would be very interesting for some of
you guys with good ears to try a 512/192,000 combo and see if that makes
any difference. Of course the short buffer may be overwhelmed by the
fast sample rate. Still I think mebbe those of you with really really
hot boxes ought to give it a try...
If the big determinant is processing time then multi-threading and more
cores may help.. Say continuously processing the receive buffer even
during transmit, then mebbe...
Otherwise only solution I can see is to use pin diodes for T/R and keep
filling the receive buffer while transmitting................... then
throw the bad stuff in the receive buffer away and process the rest.
That would be one heck of a trick without causing a pop!
very best regards
Rob
AB7CF
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:58:24 +0000 Dave Blaschke <w5un at wt.net> writes:
> The best performance I can obtain for QSK is at the following
> settings:
> GENERAL-AUDIO-Buffer: Size 512, Sample Rate: 48000
> GENERAL-OPTIONS: Process Priority: High
> DSP: TX Buffer Size: 512, RX Buffer Size: 512
> Delay (ms): 10 (minimum setting)
>
> At these settings I see around 10% CPU utilization on the PowerSDR
> screen.
>
> With these settings, I am almost, but not quite there. Here is my
> complaint. When returning from T to R there is an audible "pop" that
>
> tends to mask reception during Dits and Dahs. I am wondering if
> Receive recovery is occurring quickly enough. Elimination of the
> "pop" on transition from T to R would go a long way in smoothing out
>
> QSK, in my opinion.
>
> My method of comparing QSK capability between my SDR-5000 and my
> FT1000D is to select the frequency on a constant carrier signal, and
>
> then key at 20 wpm to see how well I am able to hear the carrier
> between Dits and Dahs.
>
>
> Dave, W5UN
>
>
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